Knoyle Street, SE14

Knoyle Street is the eastern extension of Cold Blow Lane beyond the East London Railway.

Knoyle Street looking from the Cold Blow Lane end towards Chubworthy Street, Woodpecker Road and Milton Court Road (1953). This view dates from a period before demolition took place and only the houses pictured front right remained.
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The line of Knoyle Street dates back to the early 1800s as simply a muddy footpath extending Cold Blow Lane.

The street has a confusing history of layouts. Originally it ran east-west but in the 1960s it was shortened and most of the street was newer, running in a quarter-circle north from the shortened section. Part of the Woodpecker Estate was built here.

When completed, the Woodpecker Estate consisted of eight tower blocks. In the centre of the estate was the main local shopping centre and a pub named The Spanish Steps. The estate became synonymous with gang culture in Lewisham and in 1992, an Estate Action Plan was drawn up for the regeneration of the estate. This resulted in all but one of its tower blocks being demolished and replaced with three storey blocks of flats.

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CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LOCALITY

Christine Clark Knoyle Street, SE14 Added: 20 Feb 2021 11:27 GMT	Number 44 (1947 - 1967) The Clark’s moved here from Dorking my father worked on the Thames as a captain of shell mex tankers,there were three children, CHristine, Barbara and Frank, my mother was Ida and my father Frank.Our house no 44 and 42 were pulled down and we were relocated to Bromley The rest of our family lived close by in Milton Court Rd, Brocklehurat Street, Chubworthy street so one big happy family..lovely days. Reply
Senegal Road, SE16 Added: 1 Sep 2021 16:58 GMT	Prefabs! The "post-war detached houses" mentioned in the description were "prefabs" - self-contained single-storey pre-fabricated dwellings. Demolition of houses on the part that became Senegal Fields was complete by 1964 or 1965. Source: Prefabs in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia Reply
Daryl Herons Court, SE14 Added: 5 Feb 2021 07:25 GMT	Heron Court Pomeroy Street Heron Court was built in 1999. There are twelve, one bedroom flats to the front of Heron Court and behind, which can’t be seen from the road, four, four bedroom houses. The properties are owned by Hexagon Housing Association with occupants of the flats being tenants that are cared for by Southwark Social Welfare for mental/health issues. Reply

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Bernard Miller Windsor Terrace, N1 Added: 12 Apr 2022 17:36 GMT	My mother and her sister were born at 9 Windsor Terrace My mother, Millie Haring (later Miller) and her sister Yetta Haring (later Freedman) were born here in 1922 and 1923. With their parents and older brother and sister, they lived in two rooms until they moved to Stoke Newington in 1929. She always said there were six rooms, six families, a shared sink on the first floor landing and a toilet in the backyard. Reply

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Grove Street, Deptford looking north from Evelyn Street (c.1937) Credit: London Metropolitan Archives TUM image id: 1620301256 Licence:	Folkestone Gardens, Trundleys Road, Deptford, before demolition in the 1970s. TUM image id: 1605008422 Licence: CC BY 2.0	Deptford Windmill was situated at the junction of Windmill Lane and Deptford. This sketch dates from 1840. Credit: Wiki Commons TUM image id: 1620909429 Licence:	Abinger Grove VE Day street party TUM image id: 1625500582 Licence:	The gas lamp in the centre of the island at New Cross Gate is a well-known landmark of the area. It doubled up as a ventilation pipe for the (now derelict) 1897-built toilets below ground. The lamp is Grade II listed for embodying the only design of Scottish architect Alexander Thomson’s work to survive in England. Old London postcard TUM image id: 1610549721 Licence:
Trains once ran down the centre of Grove Street in Deptford. Originally called the Thames Junction Railway, the Deptford Wharf Branch was a goods-only branch built to a railway-owned wharf on the Thames incorporating the old established Deadman’s Dock. This connected in to the lines to New Cross Gate and the South London Line and its route crossed the Grand Surrey Canal, first on a lifting bridge then further north at a higher level on an over bridge. The wharf was more or less divided into two halves with Grove Street forming the boundary. There was a line which came out of the east side of a yard and formed the Grove Street Tramway that ran down the middle of the road to the Corporation of London Foreign Cattle Market. Between the Wharf and the cattle market was the Royal Victualling Yard, later the Royal Victoria Yard. The Locomotive is a London and Brighton and South Coast Railway Class D1. Credit: London and Brighton and South Coast Railway TUM image id: 1620902713 Licence:

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Grove Street, Deptford looking north from Evelyn Street (c.1937)
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Folkestone Gardens, Trundleys Road, Deptford, before demolition in the 1970s.
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Trains once ran down the centre of Grove Street in Deptford. Originally called the Thames Junction Railway, the Deptford Wharf Branch was a goods-only branch built to a railway-owned wharf on the Thames incorporating the old established Deadman’s Dock. This connected in to the lines to New Cross Gate and the South London Line and its route crossed the Grand Surrey Canal, first on a lifting bridge then further north at a higher level on an over bridge. The wharf was more or less divided into two halves with Grove Street forming the boundary. There was a line which came out of the east side of a yard and formed the Grove Street Tramway that ran down the middle of the road to the Corporation of London Foreign Cattle Market. Between the Wharf and the cattle market was the Royal Victualling Yard, later the Royal Victoria Yard. The Locomotive is a London and Brighton and South Coast Railway Class D1.
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